In these modern times we should be ready to change careers a few times. Everyone is looking for C programmers now… Go figure. Not even the indian firms know what a device driver is anymore. This gentleman will be bored to tears when he discovers that there will be no network trouble shooting nor any Active Directory work.
This is his replacement. Interns are considered employees and get first crack at any position opened. If the kids are doing it, you can do it too…. I get sick of puff pieces like this article that tell you to modify your resume and get a recruitment managers attention.
They give some heart warming examples of a couple of people who got a job. I am sick of being interviewed by children with NO understanding of anything I talk about regarding tech telling me they will submit my resume, but If something else comes along they might put me on that instead.
I think what happens is although I do well in the interview with the people there, I will get shut down because of my age after other people hiring managers and higher management find out my age. That is what I have done. With a commute that was 2. Tech jobs are VERY replaceable, you have noticed.
For me it was no longer worth mind numbing boredom and petty harassment and diminishing compensation. I am lucky to have made money for two decades as a contractor when the pay was either great or very good.
The Tech work has changed to mostly productivity tools in many large companies Banks, Insurance, Health Care etc. The H1B Corporate crime against american workers has driven down wages and destroyed employment opportunities, as it was intended to do. They fire hundreds of experienced and dedicated workers in a single department, replace them with inexperienced low wage foreign workers. This is driven by corporate America NOT the government.
Open your eyes, people. If you are over 50, the American corporation sees you as trash to be taken out to the curb.
They see you as useless. Sure keep saying your prayers, that will change everything. Find another career and fast. Renewable Energy, Health Care, or how about plumbing? Just like all the others here, being older is a hate crime against IT. I had only a few programming courses back in the late 90s, and I got into a training program and worked mainframe for 10 yrs.
Then they did massive outsourcing and I got laid off. All I can say is get out — its like trying to be an actor or an astronaut, or a professional athlete. Its that hard. In my opinion, the solution is for you all get together and create your own tech companies and hire mostly people over There is a solution to every problem. I think the lay-public and this really includes all of us to a certain extent…we only know the niche we are familiar with is fairly clueless regarding the true composite that is the tech industry.
Last time, about 10 years ago, I was able to get employment by finding a contract. This time around, I came to the realization that the contracts go to H-1B people and Americans are at a disadvantage. This is because many of the hiring managers are Indian and also because there are some big Indian contracting agencies with USA branches that sponsor the H-1B workers. I have nothing against the Indian workers themselves — or people of Indian nationality in general.
These people are exploited by their employers and they are victims of the whole unfortunate situation, too. They work for less pay and they never stand up for themselves. Guess what that does for the workplace in general?
I just wonder if government could be doing more to protect american workers. Some steps have been taken to limit H-1B visas. I am from india. I have been on H1B long ago , went on to get a green card but gave it up later to return to my home country and then went on to work for a decade in IT industry in india.
Age discrimination and labor arbitrage are basic facts of life. IT jobs and a long term career in it are dream fulfilling in india and they are not considered low wage from their perspective. People are not standing up because their status is actually elevated either at the stage of being a fresher in many cases or atleast later in mid management level for others.
Corporate america along with global corporations with considerable help of politicians have set this paradigm firmly in place and i dont see it toppling unless there is massive backlash from common people against their government.
I am unlucky enough to find myself exactly in the situation you are describing. So I am stuck and it hurts a lot! It is a disgrace and feel I am purposely mistreated every day for it to get me tired and leave. Laughable photo for this article showing someone who is 80 plus when the article is about over 50s. Get real!
I am a 57 year old health professional taking my first programming course in Python with the thought of perhaps transitioning into the tech field….. Would remote positions working from home and less face to face interaction with the younger upstarts be a better way to go?
I look forward to your comments. In the meantime, I have sent quite a few applications, and got 2 responses, one from Amazon who wanted me to go to Seattle for interviewing, which I refuse to do. I worked as a programmer in Seattle in the nineties when I was young, and going back there now makes me both scared and sad.
I also refuse to work for Bezos. Modern programming teams are young and an older person will disrupt the atmosphere. I am now just gonna survive till 62 when I will start collecting my social security checks.
To those who want to or need to get back into the grind, I have 2 pieces of advise. If you can, lower your age to And get a facelift. Luckily for me, I did exceptionally well in my 20s, when I started and sold two companies before going back to grad school in my 30s. After that, I was a corporate executive at a large public software company here in Silicon Valley. I was chief architect and led a division of nearly developers, and was widely praised for having both deep technical and leadership experience.
Typical story. Over 5 years I managed to secure only 2 on-site interviews; only 1 that made it past the first round. I was consistently interviewing with hiring managers and peers who were 20 years my juniors who had not only less experience but fewer credentials, both academic and professional. The reasons given were always the typical cop-outs. Lacking some minute, specific experience. Sorry, but this and all the other well intended articles are worthless in helping to actually get a job.
Ageism in IT directed toward Americans Is depressing. This is happening In Health Care. Indian, Filipino, Ugandan nurses have contracts with Hospitals. Our society just not enough work for everyone. Unemployed among old people become norm and this issue keep repeating without ending… These thing tell us, there are something wrong for our society. We waste so much human resources for those unemployed and capable people.
Thanks guys. But some careers have a cap in terms of how old you can be to get started. This age limit is because as we grow older, we may lose some cognitive abilities that can hinder us from doing a certain job. We may lack the ability to think tactically and jump into new youth trends once we reach a certain age. Also, you should consider that if you start a career at an older age, you will be allocating a few more years to getting the education and experience you need to excel.
But is there an age cap for a career in software engineering? Is 30 too old to become a software engineer? This is one of the most commonly asked questions in the field.
But no, 30 is not too old to become a software engineer. A lot of software engineers get their first job at the age of 30 to This can either be because they went through a career change during young adulthood or they spent years building their experience and skillsets.
The Ideal Age to Become a Software Engineer Over recent years, there has been a lot of fuss about millennials taking over the working sector. More and more companies are beginning to employ younger age groups, specifically young adults. True enough, we see professionals in their 20s gaining high positions in their specific industries.
But in software development, the stats would slightly differ. The average age of software developers is 32 years old. And these are professionals who have gained at least years of experience in the field. Most senior software engineers get promoted to managerial and executive roles after a few years of experience as a software developer.
So the age of 30 is not a bad start to pursue a software engineering career. Older developers have always had the stigma of staleness attached to them as well.
I think this stems from the long tenure at large corporations. The Internet changed a lot of that as well. Now, older developers are starting companies of their own. Technology is significantly easier to learn today because of the wealth of information available. Fifteen years ago, your ability to learn a new technology depended upon how many books you could read and whether your company would send you to training.
Now, I can find better information, quicker than before, and it is free. In reality, age is just a number. There are plenty of younger developers that have no interest in working at a startup, just like those family-oriented older developers.
They just need to decide to do so. There are some younger developers that learned Java in school and have no interest in learning anything else because it is stable and used at many large corporations. There are people of all ages that refuse to work for less than they feel they are worth. Some of these people are misguided, and others may be worth the money. In all of these cases, developers young and old may not be a fit for a startup. To be a fit for a startup, you must have the desire to be in a startup.
If that means working long hours at a lower salary while learning all sorts of new technology, then you must be prepared. See the original article here. Thanks for visiting DZone today,. Edit Profile. Sign Out View Profile. Over 2 million developers have joined DZone. Age is just a number, but try telling that to some recruiters. Like 1.
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